How does tales of symphonia end

Lets see Kratos feels obligated to travel with Derris kharlan beacuse he is a half-elf i think, and therefore feels he does not belong on earth having already lived there for a few hundred years.

Traveling with Derris will let him explore the universe also. Tabitha shows up near Martel because they have some sort of connection. I think Tabitha lets her body become the actual vessel for Martel, kind of like Colette was supposed to be.

If you remember earlier in the game, they said she was like a doll, a mindless puppet, which is what Colette was supposed to become, and DID become for a short time.

Lloyd gets wings just because Kratos is his father im guessing? He must be part Elf, and his exsphere was also some advanced kind, probably amplified by the summon spirit and the blade u get at the end of the game. Colette helps him with the slash just for emphasis probably. There isnt any real meaning to it. Yes it is a very confusing game and I encourage you to play it through many times. My file has some hrs or so of play time trying new things.

I cant be sure of how accurate my explainations are, but they're the best I got and I love that game! I can help clear in more detail if you'd like. Kratos isn't a half-elf, and he has only lived for so long, because of skills Yuan, Mithos, and himself had developed when they traveled together 4 thousand years prior to the game in order to stop the Karlan War.

The war was between two groups; half-elves and humans. This is because half-elves were not accepted by either the full blooded elves or the humans, because they were half of both, and in this sense not good enough for either race.

The humans fought, because they believed half-elves to be dirty and low-class. He tells you that you have to fight him and leaves. Later when you get the Material Blade, Kratos joins your party. You can see some little optional scenes in Luin if you build it to max and Triet near the end of the game.

During the scene in the Tower of Salvation while arrows are shooting at Lloyd, he is saved because the final arrow strikes the locket that Noishe gave him. Yes, this means you need to complete the game from start to finish at least twice to complete your Monster Book. Yes, this means you need to complete the game from start to finish at least thrice to complete your Collector's Book.

You have to have talked to those two kids in Heimdall to learn about protozoans. It's also possible that you needed to follow Kratos out of the inn in that scene at the beginning of the game as well, but I'm not sure. Only on one of the endings with Zelos I always hear people mentioning sidequests that are only available on one of the Zelos endings, but I can't think of a single example.

Either you CAN do it after getting Kratos back e. If you get the Kratos ending, most sidequests are disabled between the Tower of Salvation to the point where you get the Derris-Emblem, but they all become available again after that. Here are some things that mess with how much different characters like Lloyd: -Each and every point in the main plot dialogue where you are given a choice of what to say. However, what she says seems to be based on a fix amount, whereas anything affected by character relationships is based on how different characters are ranked.

Even if you manage to make everyone hate you, the one who hates you the least is still the one who likes you the most If anyone else is the character with the highest affection, it will be Colette Other Plot Variations Here is a very brief overview of some other ways the plot can change between playthroughs. These points are independent of the different endings.

What determines it is a mystery so far. Anyway, she joins later at Asgard Ranch. Keep me logged in on this device. Forgot your username or password? The same happens to Colette, who has an added level of stupidity with her techs. The main downside is that the AI simply doesn't know how to properly chain Colette's artes together, and especially doesn't know how to position her for Pow Hammer.

This results in the tech either missing or only getting one or two hammer hits. Pikmin had more intelligent AI. Asshole Victim : Before Ozette is destroyed, it's revealed that it was a town primarily of racist hicks anyway. Even a passing traveler that doesn't like half-elves himself thought their hatred for Half-Elves was rather heavy.

The Atoner : Lloyd helps Colette partly to help atone for his part in Iselia's destruction. Later on, the party is joined by Regal, who embodies this trope. Kratos is also revealed to be one.

Awful Truth : Expheres are people! Awesome Mc Coolname : Mithos Yggdrasil. Zelos Wilder. Badass Adorable : Presea is a adorable, tiny little girl who cuts enemies apart with a massive ax. Bait-and-Switch : A priestly girl in Palmacosta appears once the party has been to Hakonesia Peak, asking them to take her there.

Players expecting an Escort Mission will be pleasantly surprised to discover it's just a Zip Mode. Bastard Bastard : The pope. Beach Episode : Well, cutscene, at least. In addition to gaining new titles and outfits, you also raise the Relationship Values of whomever you choose to accompany you. The Penguinists and Penguiners, who look like people in penguin suits. And for a plant version, Mandragoras are just people with flowers growing out of their heads Dawn Of The New World makes them look more like monsters.

Betty and Veronica : The game's most strongly hinted at pairings for Lloyd are the sweet, blond Colette Betty and the tough, dark-haired Sheena Veronica , though personality-wise, they're both mostly Betty. Big Damn Heroes : This game is chock-full of this trope: Kratos saving the party from Vidar at the beginning of the game. The rest of the party saving Lloyd from Botta. The whole party saving Palmacosta when Magnius tries to execute someone.

Sheena, at Kvar's Ranch. Botta saving the party from Yggdrasill and Kratos the first time you go to the Tower of Salvation. Botta again, saving the party at the price of his life from Rodyle's flooding lair. Mithos summoning Aska to get the party out of a sealed chamber.

Yuan helping to delay Kratos. Yuan, again, when he shows up and tells the party of an alternate route into the Tower of Salvation's seed chamber. The entire party revealing that they survived and helping Lloyd defeat Pronyma.

Zelos or Kratos reapplying Colette's key crest, giving Lloyd the last item he needs to wield the Eternal Sword and helping Lloyd defeat Yggdrasil. Yuan saving Kratos after the latter sacrifices all of his mana to release Origin's seal.

Big, Screwed-Up Family : Zelos's family situation is a mess. His parents were arranged to be married to continue the Mana lineage. Both of them had relationships on the side, with Zelos's father's half-elf lover eventually mothering Zelos's half-sister Seles. Their father later committed suicide, while Zelos and Seles were still very young. Seles's mother, jealous that Zelos was the Chosen and had all the privileges the position implies, attempted to assassinate Zelos, but Zelos's mother Mylene was killed instead.

And as Mylene lay dying, her last words to her son were that he shouldn't have been born. After that, Seles's mother was executed and Seles was placed under house arrest. Both Zelos and Seles believe their sibling hates them for what happened to their family, with Zelos feeling particularly guilty that Seles was locked away for something she had no part in.

With all that had happened, it's honestly kind of a blessing that, dysfunctional communication aside, Zelos and Seles actually love each other despite everything. The Mana lineages, in both Tethe'alla and Sylvarant, prove to be this in general once it's revealed that the Mana Lineage and Chosen system is essentially a breeding program to produce the perfect Soul Jar for Martel. Black-and-White Morality : Deconstructed.

Lloyd believes the world works this way at first, and a large part of his Character Development is learning to fight for actual reasons rather than just "because those guys are evil". It even lets you live if you lose to it. Body Horror : How does turning into a giant monster and attacking your loved ones sound to you?

Made explicit in the anime, where Alicia's transformation looks exceedingly painful. Bonus Boss : Lots of them. Boobs of Steel : Inverted. Sheena is the most well-endowed, but she's not the strongest fighter. Colette, a self-confessed "Ironing Board", is physically stronger and can be a better fighter. But the girl that takes the cake is Presea , who can lift logs and wield Axes and Hammers larger than she is, despite looking like a twelve-year-old girl.

Boomerang Bigot : The Pope is fiercely anti-half-elf even though — or more precisely, because his daughter is a half-elf. He used to support the cause of half-elf equality, and even fell in love with an elf. But when their daughter was born and her mother died, he found himself growing more hateful and terrified of her differences, coming to understand the perspective of the people who hated half-elves, and he started to support them instead.

Acquiring them all is easy enough, but their true power can only be unlocked by defeating the Bonus Boss Abyssion. Raine's subverts it, as it boosts her all-important Intelligence stat without having to go through all that trouble.

Also, the famous Tower of Mana "Quick Jump" skit. To an extent, anyway. Buffy Speak : Lloyd does this a lot , usually to be corrected by Kratos or Raine.

Call-Back : The entire scene in Flanoir could be seen as a Call-Back to a similar scene in Phantasia, both happening just before the game's climax or the last Disc-One Final Dungeon , in Symphonia's case. Both Phantasia and Symphonia also have a special The Tower of Druaga -related title for collecting all of the Druaga equipment except in Symphonia you have to equip them all on Zelos to get it.

Quite a lot of plot details like Derris-Kharlan, the world tree, and the Eternal Sword also feature in both. Of course, this is because Symphonia is in fact a distant prequel to Phantasia.

Calling Your Attacks : All of them. Except for Colette when she loses her voice , using a special in combat will result in this trope. Cap : The EXP readout at the end of battle will only go up to 65,, and any more will cause the counter to roll over back to 0.

Only 20 Magic Lenses can be held at one time. Captain Ersatz : Maybe, but the similarities between Colette and Saikano 's Chise are high in number and down right creepy at times. Colette and Flonne are both flat-chested blondes who preach about love and are angels. Ditto for Lloyd and Ichiro Ogami. It doesn't help that Kosuke Fujishima did the character designs for both. Not to mention Zelos and Sha Gojyo. At least one particular version. Censorship by Spelling : Zelos calls Kratos an "arrogant SOB" at one point which is technically censorship by acronym , although Sheena still chews him out for it, presumably since they were in front of Genis, Colette and Presea at the time.

Character Development : Over the course of the game Lloyd learns not to see the world in Black-and-White Morality , Colette learns to take the weight of the world on her shoulders, Regal and Sheena forgive themselves, Presea starts to move on with her life, Genis and Raine come to terms with being Half-elves and Zelos learns how to trust the others Provided you let him. Chekhov's Gun : Everything in Ymir Forest qualifies for this is if inspected before they become useful.

Pigs headbutt trees, bugs fall out of branches, fish swim through seemingly random patterns, and the sharks are hungry little buggers. The only exception is the birds, which are useful immediately after they are found. Cherry Tapping : The player is given a special title for using only wooden swords until halfway through the journey of Regeneration. Depending on how you play the game, they may not end up together. The Chosen One : Taken to its literal extreme.

The Chosen Zero : Colette and Zelos. In this case, the real question everyone should be asking is "who chose them? This has led to the rather appropriate observation that 'There is no 'os' in trust. Clothing Damage : Actually kinda important. A parting shot from Forcystus' Arm Cannon blows part of Colette's sleeve off, revealing that she's ill and her skin is slowly crystallizing into strange scales.

Collector of the Strange : Koton. Color-Coded Elements : Red for fire, blue for water, green for wind, brown for earth, light blue for ice, purple for lightning, white for light, black for darkness. The only time it really becomes relevant is during a puzzle during the Very Definitely Final Dungeon , the completion of which unlocks the Bonus Dungeon.

The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard : When fighting Kratos, he has access to artes from both his Strike and Technical paths, most glaring with Fierce Demon Fang Strike and Double Demon Fang Technical , actually same-level upgrades of the same arte which is flat-out impossible for the player. Compressed Adaptation : The biggest problem with the Animated Adaptation.

Sylvarant, the first half of the game, was squeezed into four episodes. Crapsaccharine World : The bright, cutesy graphics do a great job of covering the dark, nightmarish story. Creepy Monotone : Presea, at least until she's cured. Cultural Cross-Reference : In the beach sidequest of the first game, the names of the four girls you're supposed to find easily remind you of a certain book series that is beloved by the Japanese.

Amy, Jo, Beth, and Meg make cameo appearances. You do not mess with that man's son. Cute Bruiser : Presea, as well as Colette once she gains more angel abilities. She even lifts an unconscious Regal with one arm at one point. Cutscene Incompetence : At the Iselia Human Ranch , at one point Lloyd and a companion somehow get knocked down and beat up by generic Desians who they had been cutting swaths through earlier.

It seems the only purpose of the scene was for one of the prisoners to stand up to the Desians and hit one from behind, giving Lloyd and company enough time to get back on their feet and crush their rather weak opponents like normal. Cut Scene Power To The Max : Any time a cutscene calls for a player character to fight, they'll only ever use attacks they're guaranteed to have at this point — it's Necessary Weasel , but for most characters, this means that they're one-shotting various baddies with their weakest techniques.

Sheena is the primary exception, as her acquisition of Summon Spirits is plot-tied, but even then, she can summon at will in cutscenes where gameplay would demand she be in Overlimit mode. Damn You, Muscle Memory! In Vesperia , normal attacks are B the right face button and special abilities are A the bottom face button on the Xbox controller. It helps though that both games allow you to customize your battle controls.

Happens again with the PC version. This is especially fun if you went from the Gamecube version of To S , got used to Vesperia on the and then later came back to Symphonia on the PC. It also works in reverse, not only does playing this game make you forget about Free Run, but it also, especially if you played multiplayer, try to constantly attack bosses and try to overpower him to guard break as opposed to seeking out actual openings or weaknesses.

Colette is kidnapped on two big occasions in the game, and the rest of the party must go to great lengths to rescue her both times. That said, she's quite capable the rest of the time. Chocolat is kidnapped by the Desians early and taken to a nearby Human Ranch, then taken to another Ranch before you can rescue her.

The party is not able to rescue her until the end of Disc 1. Princess Hilda is kidnapped by the Pope in one sidequest, but rescuing her is a cinch. Kate is imprisoned by the Pope for helping the party, and is freed when one of the protagonists fights in the Coliseum to gain access to the dungeon.

She is then used as a decoy for Princess Hilda's sidequest above. Dead Character Walking : Sheena's revival technique, Purgatory Seal, essentially creates a literal version of this: the game will treat you as "alive", but you have zero Hit Points , and you go down if you take any damage at all. Healing items and spells work on you as they do on any other living character; this is best used if you're out of Life Bottles and you don't have Raine in the party at the moment.

It's particularly savage towards the idea of The Chosen One and just what self-esteem issues a Messianic Archetype could potentially end up with.

It tears into the Determinator and Idiot Hero tropes too. Just to clarify a bit, being a stubborn idiot may have been the only thing that kept Lloyd going when a smarter person of the same upbringing would have been done, and his unflinching idealism lead to a major Heroic BSoD or two when he learned what was actually going on.

And as noted below, the Big Bad is just as much of a Determinator as Lloyd is - his ideals just got compromised along the way. Defeat Means Friendship : Just about anyone you fight without killing. Dem Bones : There are a few skeletal mooks here and there. And then there's the Sword Dancer , who's a giant hulking four-armed skeletal swordsman.

Determinator : Half the damn cast, Lloyd being the primary culprit. It's also deconstructed with the Big Bad , whose main character flaw is in many ways his inability to Know When to Fold 'Em , something Lloyd does know. Developers' Desired Date : Any of the party can be chosen as Lloyd's soul mate not always but often a romantic relationship based on who has the highest Affection for Lloyd. However the game heavily favours Colette for this role.

While every other party member starts with an Affection score of 0, Colette starts with an Affection score of She also has more chances to increase this score and less chances to reduce it than any other character. Colette also has more scenes alone with Lloyd than the other party members and the final cutscene is with her and Lloyd even if she isn't his soul mate. Developers' Foresight : After you make a summon pact with Undine, you can go make pacts with Efreet and Sylph as well.

There's no in-story reason to do this, but it will unlock them as spells earlier and save you the trouble of going back for them later in the game when you need all the Summon Spirits. The bosses are even returned to match your current level. If you decide to have Lloyd only fight using the wooden swords he starts off with, when you finish your trip to Palmacosta, you'll be given a unique and very useful title for doing so that points how the sheer ridiculousness of achieving it.

In fairness, it does breathe fire. And then after that , it's Torent Forest. Distant Sequel : Tales of Symphonia takes place thousands of years before Tales of Phantasia , enough time for magitek civilizations to rise and destroy themselves in a war before a meteor impact sends the world back into another technological dark age.

An exact time gap is not given, but the general consensus is four thousand years, with Symphonia 's ending acting as Year Zero for the calendar used in Phantasia. Does This Remind You of Anything? Kvar also deserves special mention, as he draws many similarities with Josef Mengele. And Regal is The president of a major company, specializes in martial arts, and has a pretty dark past involving the death of an important person. How oddly familiar Doomed Hometown : Iselia is burned by Desians and Lloyd is banished for being partially to blame for it.

Presea's hometown of Ozette is destroyed rather arbitrarily, Luin also becomes completely wrecked, and so does Heimdall To be quite honest, Luin was asking for it. That's what you get when your town's name can be written as Ruin. So was Ozette for being full of racist jerks.

Drowning My Sorrows : Kratos and apparently Colette?! Yuan's there too though celebrating his increase in screentime. Zelos also visits the bar later for the same reason. Dub Name Change : Genius or Genis? Refill or Raine? Shihna or Sheena? Regal Bryan or Regal Bryan t? Dude, She's Like, in a Coma!

Duel Boss : There's a few: Sheena challenges Kuchinawa to a Duel to the Death so he can get out his anger over her getting his parents killed. Seles will try to upstage Zelos in a Coliseum match to try and get him to let her join the party. The third time you fight Kratos, at Origin's seal. A variant occurs at the end of the PS2 version's Forbidden Anamnesis, where you fight Mithos, Kratos, and Yuan as they were 4, years ago , and they demand that you fight them three-on-three.

Dumb Is Good : Lloyd and Colette are both rather dim-witted and seem much 'nicer' when compared to the smarter Genis, Raine and Kratos. To be fair, in Genis' case, he is pretty nice, yet for all the intellect he possesses, he's still one of the younger members of the cast, leading him to be quite bratty at times.

This usually doesn't sit well with his older sister, Raine , as she still handles him with kid gloves by rectifying his occasional poor behavior with a slap across the head and the occasional spanking. Durable Deathtrap : The traps found in the Balacruf Mausoleum are still functional after some several hundred years. Mithos appears in the Tethe'alla arc opening even though his proper introduction isn't until the United World arc.

Escort Mission : The Temple of Darkness features the party escorting five fragments of Shadow, the Summon Spirit of Darkness, to the bottom of the temple. Player hatred ensues. Embarrassing Relative Teacher : Raine teaches Genis's class.

While he is embarrassed by her sometimes, it's never within the actual school setting, since there are no ruins or cooking in school Emotionless Girl : Presea. She comes to her senses at the worst possible time, though Also Colette, as she begins to become an angel.

Thankfully, she gets better. Emotions vs. Stoicism : Each of Lloyd's companions is driven by either emotions or logic; Lloyd's decisions impact relationship values based on which side he appeals to.

Empty Room Psych : In Welgaia, there is a building with five floors, each with two identical small rooms. All but one of them are completely barren, and it's on the first floor anyway, making the whole thing all the more psyche-y. Eternal English : The fact that people from Sylvarant and Tethe'alla still understand each other after years of near-complete separation is pretty amazing, they don't even have different accents!

To be fair, since both Cruxis and the Renegades are controlling both worlds behind the scenes, it makes sense that they would speak the same language in both worlds. The Exile : Lloyd and Genis, due to being responsible for Iselia's destruction. Fake Defector : Zelos , depending on your ending. Also Kratos , but he's much sneakier about it. Fanservice : Sheena's alternate outfits not that her default is particularly modest , as well as a visit to the beach and a hot spring.

The massive amounts of Ship Tease also count. And on the men's side, Neil, Yuan, Aifreed. Fantastic Racism : The discrimination against half-elves is a recurring element in the series, as is the discrimination against humans in Sylvarant.

Fauxshadow : Genis is foreshadowed to betray you.